He’s provably not a Communist. But he didn't want to watch it, because he felt like he'd be just picking up somebody else's interpretation of the people he knew. Reflections on the Bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Corporate Involvement in the Manhattan Project, University Involvement in the Manhattan Project.

The Acheson-Lilienthal suggestion in 1946 or 1947 was the plan that George Bush was implementing in 2007 saying, "Hey, if we can control fissionable materials, we can control this." In that case, the historical effort would pay off. Most of his childhood was spent in Princeton, New Jersey during the period that his father was the Director of the Institute for Advanced Study. As I've grown into my forties, I'm getting interested now.

It gave me an appreciation for self-sufficiency and self-reliance, and I absolutely trusted my Dad in all areas to take care of us. Oppenheimer: But yeah, we lived completely off the map. I was born in Santa Fe, New Mexico.

As a kid, I could barely saddle a horse. But he doesn't want to participate in that, the vast majority of the time. I imagined being in that position and how awful it would be. If somebody said, "Did you do this? Maybe not? I spent a lot of my life distanced from it. I remember visiting them for holidays. My main memories of Los Alamos, besides field trips and stuff, were once my Dad starting participating more in the anti-nuclear movement, he would go there to talk or do some action. I don’t know what that is!”. Bird:   We're I guess running out of time. Bird: I'm recording what other people say, but of course, even the closest of family friends can't sometimes know a family. Oppenheimer: I'm not totally sure. Oppenheimer: There was water for drinking into the house and an outhouse. It's really interesting being here today. Eating some popcorn. I was kind of impressed by that. I remember Olden Manor. Oppenheimer: But that's what I've heard about it—not that our family suffered an injustice and this was a big deal.

I think he belonged in a march against it, rather than inside the government like Robert Oppenheimer. That was the last time you were here, in Washington, DC. Oppenheimer: One of the harder things to deal with—like most of my upbringing, saying, "You invented the atomic bomb," wasn't particularly hard for me. I met some of the directors over the years. Peter Oppenheimer is a carpenter, and the son of J. Robert Oppenheimer. Cut that word slow.” However, his children only recall him saying good things about his parents. But it’s one of those weird things. So we went to New York and we were just kids, we went along as tourists and saw that, and participated in that.

Was he a famous person? Peter was born in 1941 in California, and moved with his parents to Los Alamos when his father became the Director of the Manhattan Project. The love scene? But when we experienced it, it was just a family thing, living there. After a schoolmate jeeringly told him that his father was a communist, he wrote an angry message on a chalkboard in his room.

We had no part of our life, except for the public stuff that we just had to deal with with people, especially in New Mexico where it is more prevalent, you know, going on field trips to Los Alamos. Plant a tree to honor the memory of your loved one. After an ostensibly unhappy childhood in Princeton, Peter went west soon after high school. It wasn't some awful thing for us.” That's what he says. We don’t have a lot of time to discuss in the schoolyard, but that’s off by a few magnitudes.".

He said, "We had to find out how the atom worked." Oppenheimer: I haven't heard it, but I've read it. Send your deepest condolences with fresh flowers. Right after she was born, we had been living on the ranch full-time. Those are the guys who were accusing my grandfather. I remember going Nambe to a lot to visit with the Hempelmann’s, Elinor and Louis Hemplemann. Oppenheimer: By the way, some of the research you guys published shocked me.

Educated Goucher College (A.B., 1918); Johns Hopkins School of Medicine (M.D., 1924). But I didn't come out and spit that out to the reporter. The New Mexican term would be, what I would get is, “You invented the atomic bomb.”, I'm like, "Wait a second here. The times were against my grandfather. But I always had the backdrop of, “What does my Dad think? It was almost just a coincidence that we dropped in there, and ended up in DC for the end of the peace march. But of course, in 1954 he went through a terrible national exercise of humiliation, this witchcraft kind of trial. I was like, "Wow, this is not how I grew up.". Being raised in a log cabin at the ranch is who we were. In 1975 in New Mexico, it actually wasn't that unusual to go back to the land, but we were really back to the land. He raised a family and brought his family there, but it’s something that’s been a real sense of visible weird family emotions around the ranch.

The guy I'm remembering is more of a scientist. Vanderford:  They still are. Vanderford: It was very uncomfortable.

They saw what was going to happen. and at Little Burstead House in England. Again, I was blessed to be a part of her life. Robert Oppenheimer’s secretary, For his part, Peter has given mixed accounts. Oppenheimer: I do have something that my Dad would be horrified for me to say, but since I'm on camera, it's not his comments.

It just was people that he felt on a personal level some connection, or for some reason they knew us. He was no longer in Colorado on his ranch. I had that anecdote in American Prometheus [pages 553-554]. I remember the trains, but I have no recollection of the peace march at all. Academic Title Rank Status Appointment Type Chief Resident Department Name Year; Associate Professor Emerita of Pathology: Associate Professor Emeritus: Faculty: Emeritus: NO: Pathology: 1980: Associate Professor Emerita of … He was a rancher primarily, and a little bit of construction. It wasn't a big deal. And then there's The Exploratorium, which is an absolute institution in San Francisco and Silicon Valley. He has very strong beliefs, really passed to him from his father, that are so hard to deal with. He knew Robert, and he's extremely selective on what he likes and he doesn't like. I began to realize that there was a lot to the story. I hear she's a colorful, outspoken person. That was in the newspaper. Oppenheimer: Yeah. That’s where it was. Oppenheimer: I'm not sure that my Dad would agree that it was a terrible or a big deal. He wouldn't even consider doing something like that.

It's a Hollywood movie. Oppenheimer: So six months, and that's where the majority of my older memories are from. Oppenheimer: So at least partially, we went back to Santa Fe because the schools were better. It started as a way to get healthy for Robert, and it really worked.

He would spend any amount of time talking to us. I remember steam coming out of the grates in New York City alleyways.

Bird:   No, that's a different one. For more information on Peter Oppenheimer's life, read American Prometheus by Kai Bird and Martin Sherwin. I see the reception that Charlie gets with his tag that says “Oppenheimer.” It's just so funny how people can see the name and just associate it with so much, when they see the family name as a part of the person of Robert Oppenheimer. I think at some point my Dad corrected that and explained the intricacies of it. Oppenheimer: I have another memory of sitting in Fat Man and Little Boy, if you remember the Hollywood movie. Causing Los Alamos to be centered in New Mexico was from that place. It was not that unusual to live that way in the 1890s, or 1910, or 1920. I've heard good things and I came from a good family, a close, good family that could really talk to each other and take care of each other.

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At one point he says something like, "If you think that this Manhattan Project was an expensive thing because you've read in the paper that it costs two billion dollars, you would be wrong.

Oppenheimer: The reason we went was during a peace march, an anti-nuke rally that ended in Washington, DC.

He's also buying into Richard Rhodes’ argument about, "We needed to do this to try to end all wars." It's almost in pristine historical shape, and it's almost falling down.

Bird: Thirteen, fourteen. Oppenheimer: I'm sure we could look it up.

At least I got a little attention. You're going to have a really hard time believing somebody else's interpretation, analyzing somebody, especially if you didn't meet them. There's been a series of things like that through my life. But then he would say, "I think it's the only place up in the Cowles, Pecos cabin that hasn't been converted into a vacation cabin. I'm like, "Why are these guys talking about my grandfather that way after what he did for the country?". We had never heard anything about her, so when you say that she was related to this royal family and a famous Nazi, I had no idea.

My Dad's an eccentric person, I don’t mind saying it on camera, who doesn’t relate perfectly with the world, and he definitely says, that's the kind of person he is.

Phillip Morrison, thank you. Bird: And you guys are old enough now to realize, as you mentioned, that all history, what you read, it is very subjective. Is the family taking every precaution to preserve whatever is left? That place was Frank's teaching style turned into a museum. He doesn't want to see that version, because he has a memory of people he knows. Maybe I had heard something and I was asking my dad. I remember just sitting next to people watching this and saying, "Yeah, that's my grandfather.

My Dad was very good. I never really had a problem with it, but now at least I have some opportunity to show up and say, "I'm an Oppenheimer." My Dad's maintained it.

Jeremy. Most of the jobs I take, the people I meet, they don't even know that. I interviewed your father in Santa Fe. His parents sent him to George School, an elite Quaker boarding school in Newtown, Pennsylvania, but his grades were subpar and he was unable to graduate, finishing instead at the public Princeton High School. He did do that.

Everybody knows about it, but hardly anybody knows the name "Frank Oppenheimer,” and they don’t realize there’s a connection. Bird: Was there running water from the spring into your house? To offer your sympathy during this difficult time, Oppenheimer: It was a rough school. Robert Oppenheimer’s secretary, Verna Hobson, posited that “Robert thought that in their highly charged, passionate falling in love, that Peter had come too soon, and Kitty resented him for that.” Hobson was something of a surrogate mother to Peter, given the troubled relationship between he and Kitty. Vanderford:  I remember enjoying it as a young child, going on visits there, very much. But in the '50s, that was a black mark, and it was so effective. So you have to take it all with a grain of salt. But the point is, it piqued my interest in, how would I portray somebody I hadn't met that's related to me? Then afterwards he took me up to a house in Santa Fe where Ella was staying. I think I might see the potential for a bigger picture, and see her as a more full person than your portrayal of an evil person, or something awful like this. Bird:   So tell me a little more about Frank Oppenheimer. We were kids in New Mexico, where the Manhattan Project was a bigger deal than most places. My parents really protected me.

Bird: Coming back to your childhood, you both spent part of, as I understand it, your early childhood up in the old ranch. He [Oppenheimer] was a secret member of the Communist Party that nobody could have known about, except him [Herken].

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